“Nobody was born on 4/20 except Hitler. We do not wish to hire Hitler at this time.”
at this time
Times they are a changin’
Well that’s your loss I hear he’s great at PR
This can’t be real. There are so many red flags this is fake. 1) Everything is censored. 2) GIS (Google image search) lookup only shows reddit and linkedin. The linkedin post is just as vague “learned a colleague received this!” 3) It’s too good to be true. it plays on current fears. 4) It’s just so dumb.
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Of course everything is censored, there is no reason to share personal info like that.
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I don’t know what Geographical Information Systems have to do with this post, are you referring to a reverse image search like google or tineye or something? What were you expecting to find? The original email with all of the aforementioned personal info? Are you surprised content could be posted to Reddit before anywhere else?
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Current fears are justified.
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Poe’s Law tells me not to assume anything is satirical because there will always be people that stupid or greedy.
And yeah, it could be fake, 100%, but your arguments were really dumb.
GIS might be Google Image Search in this case, though I haven’t seen it abbreviated like that before.
That’s what it is.
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- Companies usually don’t send out detailed rejection letters like this. They’re usually like “after reviewing your credentials we decided to go with another candidate” or something vague like that.
1 is in no way a red flag, don’t put other’s personally identifying information on the Internet.
Disagree. If this was true, terrible companies should be named and shamed.
I fucking hate people like you.
“Everything on Reddit/Lemmy is fake and gay. Here’s my evidence.”
All evidence easily has an explanation, most of it laughably so.
What do idiots who claim everything is fake get out of it? To troll the OP? Or do you just want to spread your misery?
Is this not completely illegal? Dunno about the USA, in the UK age is a protected characteristic and you would be fucked for trying this. If it’s real ofc.
Only over 40, and this isn’t age it’s their birthday.
Hell, it’s the United States “Home of the free™”, where you can sue for anything.
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You should have left in the company name. Shame them publicly.
This is most likely fake.
If this was automated, a company automating rejection emails would never write the reason for rejection. It would be a vague excuse like “not a good fit for the role”.
If this was not automated, then no recruiter would be this stupid.
Or the LLM is just that incompetent lol
Wait who puts their birthday on a resume?
Me, why shouldn’t one do that? But my last resume is 10 years old, maybe I am out of touch with all the mumbo jumbo dancing you have to do, to build the “right” resume.
Many places now, that might be illegal to ask for, like race and sex.
Why did sex become illegal ?
Well you can’t make a hiring decision on that basis in most places unless you have a reason. What constitutes “a reason” being variable. Generally if you are prohibited from making a decision on a certain factor, you may not ask about it during an interview.
Sex discrimination can be constituted by various things. For example asking about maritial status, children, plans for pregnancy, soliciting sexual favors, etc. Also in some places, if you thought someone might be trans, you could not ask them about that.
Don’t put your age. It can lead to unintentional (or intentional) age discrimination and it’s better for your experience to be the focus.
Age isn’t a factor in hiring, so there’s no need to put it on there. It could only be a detriment to the applicant.
It’s generally not hard to figure out someone’s age if their work and education history is listed
Some of us don’t clutter up our resumes with every job we’ve ever had. My resume lists nothing irrelevant to my current career. I was well into adulthood at that time. Who cares where I went to highschool? It demonstrates respect for the time of the person tasked with reading a stack of resumes to not waste their time.
People probably don’t care where you went to high school, but they probably care if you have a degree and when you got it. Most people go to university within a few years of finishing high school.
According to US statistics, “overall college enrollment rate of 18- to 24-year-olds (ages in which students traditionally enroll in college) was 38 percent in 2021”.
So if by “most people” you mean, “less than half” then yes you are correct.
Most people who have a higher education degree. I thought that was implied as you even mentioned it in your comment “ages in which students traditionally enroll in college”.
Unless you are trying to get a job with min/max age requirements, like airline pilot or us president, age provides no valuable information to potential employer other than a factor to illegally discriminate on.
Personally, I would say it shouldn’t matter.
I wouldn’t want to know the birth date of a person I was interviewing, and there’s no need for my interviewer to know mine.
It wasn’t on their résumé it was on their LinkedIn.
Although now the question becomes, why would you put your DOB on LinkedIn, which I have no idea.
I just looked at my LinkedIn and don’t see anywhere that birthday is even displayed. This is clearly fake.
who doesn’t?
I have never, ever put my birthday or age on a CV. Fuck that.
You act like we’re talking about peepee lengths. Doesn’t age seem something very relevant to consider when hiring someone?
I hardly see why it’s relevant at all, no. It’s like a fucking kids painting putting your age on there lmfao.
that comparison doesn’t make sense at all
Timmy, age 5.
How is it relevant? Why should an employer care about your? All they should care about if you can do your job or not. It’s also illegal in many places around the world to make a decision based on someones age.
I don’t even have my age on mine.
On the one hand this is a bad that this happened to you, because the reasoning is completely idiotic.
On the other hand it can be a learning lesson that it’s better to write your birthday as April 20th, and never as 4/20.
PS: Please name that company publicly. Maybe write a short mail to a website about tech news, like https://arstechnica.com or https://www.wired.com. You could also try the blog https://boingboing.net
Seems like they should really keep using 4/20, seems like an effective pre-screening tool for places I don’t even want to walk by, let alone work at.
Publicity will help prevent such major oversight. This is the problem with using AI for hiring practices instead of real people. Applying to jobs in the 2020s with a college degree, experience in the field, required employment history, and certifications STILL feels like applying for credit cards online with bad credit due to AI prematurely denying many applicants on frivolous grounds before it even gets to the recruiters email/web portal. That being said I don’t think this person is the person who received the email themselves they are just posting it here.
It may not be worth listening to me on this because I only got to preliminary stages of looking for a new job before finding out that I would need to be a full time learning coach for my daughter’s online school, but I had ChatGPT rewrite my resume for me. My reasoning was that if AI is weeding out resumes, they’ll be less likely to weed out a resume written by what an AI thinks a resume should look like.
But that’s still Hitler’s birthday, which is very unprofessional.
Also the anniversary of columbine… Man I hate my birthday.
But, for real, I hope you just hate it for jokes. Every date has seen atrocities.
Imagine having a birthdate of April 26th 1986
So unprofessional.
Why does a company even need your date of birth on an application?
For the $5 starbucks gift card they give out on employee birthdays
We genuinely appreciate
🤣You obviously don’t you dickheads
I fucking despise the fact that AI almost exclusively is responsible for throwing out 99% of all resumes before they reach a human being
This isn’t just AI. AI doesn’t care about jokes or memes or “professionalism.” This was either a review by an actual human that didn’t realize people are born on April 20th or an AI told to reject resumes with that date in it.
Either way, it’s a really dumb person that set this rule.
My guess is it’s programmed to reject 4/20 anywhere it finds it and the programmer didn’t take into account that some values can just happen to be 4/20.
Although I have to ask- who would put any weed references on a resume that wasn’t tailored for, say, a weed dispensary job?
I interviewed a guy whose dev career involved a (pretty good) front-end for a grow operation. I believe the ownership at that company may have opted against hiring because of that. I’ll admit, I wasn’t wowed by his skills enough to go to bat for him.
Hmm, might be a list of no go words they complied from somewhere. You’re right, it’s very unlikely that someone actively excluded 420 but maybe they downloaded a list of “bad words”.
Sounds plausible. Could just be extremely lazy. “What about dates with 4/20” “Oh come on, how often will that legitimately occur”
The chances against it must be one in a million.
What is wrong with April 20th?
4:20 is the traditional time to smoke marijuana.
I’m not getting up that early. What’s the point in having a drug habit if you don’t get to lie in I thought that was the whole point?
4:20 p.m., known as 1620 in much of the world.
If a person set the rule it is definitely not an AI…
The problem isn’t AI the problem is brainless humans who configured the AI.
AI isn’t going to become skynet and take over the world unless someone tells it to. In which case the human is the problem.
Someone is going to tell it to
I hope it’s me.
You know someone is stupid enough to do it 😂
“Nobody wants to work anymore”
why is your comment glowing golden for me?
Is it like a disgusting brown/yellow? I was having that all day yesterday but I don’t see it on the post you’re talking about.
It’s for recent comments
Glad that won’t happen to me. I was born on January 6th.
Now I’m imagining someone legitimately putting their Jan6 involvement on a resume.
Window Structural Integrity Tester (Jan 6th, 2021): Responsibilities included - unconventional team-building activities, conditioning, navigating unfamiliar territory, and breaking down barriers.
Nah, it’d probably be more like:
Security Field Tester (Jan 6, 2021): Part of a group that organized a large-scale “peaceful march” in order to thoroughly check security protocols for the Capitol building. Duties included attempts at theft to see if we’d be stopped, testing window durability by attempting to break them, engaging physically with security staff in riot gear to test security training, and shouting terroristic threats in order to see how secure government protocols were in the event of a riot at a governmental building.
It’s called Physical Pen Tester. Such a job actually exists.
That’s the same joke, but worse.
If that’s real and in the US that’s age discrimination and you can sue, and easily win, even if they say it’s not your age, but the date of your birthday it still would fall under discrimination based on age.
Age is only a protected class if you are 40 or older.
Well that’s dumb.
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I honestly can’t tell if you’re serious or not.
edit: I’m not from the US and this seems like a very silly legislation. Unless I’m getting whoooshed.
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It’s silly but it addresses a real problem. You don’t see job ads stating no women, Blacks, Mexicans, people with disabilities, etc. (This was very much a thing in the not too distant past, just look at job ads in the USA from the 60s)
Age was added later because employers prefer hiring younger people as they can often pay them significantly less and get more work out of them because of their inexperience.
There are examples of employers firing all of their older workers to save money (though many of these companies turned out as terrible for the long term health of the company).
Older people tend to vote more and the state doesn’t want to pay unemployment to people so hence the law was amended.
This is just another example of age and deviousness triumphing over youth and enthusiasm.
If you’re in the US and can afford it, Talk to a lawyer.
This is blatant discrimination of a immutable attribute which is a Civil Rights violation.
This is written evidence to that fact.
I really hope OP goes through with the lawsuit because of how funny it is. I want to see it make big news
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This is why I assume this must be fake. Because even a trainee HR employee would look at that email, and not send it out.
Assuming they’re checking the emails at all.
Remember when that guy decided to read a book while his Tesla was doing basic lane following, and merged into a semi? I 'member.
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My dude, that is not a company you want to be working for. On the bright side.
Going to be able to buy a lot of weed after the lawsuit.
Idk if birth dates are protected classes or statuses in most places.
Kind of like saying they won’t hire you because you’re a Scorpio?
Welcome to the United States. Federally speaking at least, there are very few protections for hiring/firing. You can be fired for your hair color, unless the hiring manager is as much of an idiot as he is an asshole and says “black people don’t have blonde hair” (happened in a Hooters case I remember reading). The company policy reads “right hair color for your skin tone”, and is actually normally enforceable in the US because it’s implying no “unnaturally dyed hair”. They hypothetically can turn away an Asian redhead with no legal ramifications so long as she dyed her hair that way.
So yeah, they can 100% not hire you because you’re a Scorpio. More realistically, you’d probably see someone who doesn’t hire Aries, Virgo, or Aquarius because the New York Post had an article claiming those three signs are more likely to get fired.
That’s the great thing about AI, it’s like a human! Humans don’t need to work anymore because our computers speak like us now! It’s only ever really a problem if someone reads what AI wrote.
But if you don’t read it, wow, just look at the spacing, the typography, the paragraphs! the
tokenswords!
