Hey, German here. What the f*** are Americans doing at the other side of the Atlantic? Some of you already know this monstrosity. I did’nt. This is a Ford F650 Truck and when I stepped out of my Youtube Bubble I realized, it was marketed as the “biggest, baddest Truck on the road” for the everyday American. Are you guys serious?! Is the end goal really to drive a Monster Truck to McDs to get a McFlurry? Americas bloodiest wars have been fought in the middle east to secure oil, bombing nations to rubble. And all, for this bullshit? The excess, waste and decadence is mind boggling to me and people on Reddit seriously justifying this by “you know dude I’m 6,4ft. I don’t fit in any other vehicle” makes me go up the wall.
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If you want to be even more outraged by American stupidity, look up “rolling coal”. In short, morons buy large trucks like this and purposely detune their emissions systems to run poorly, decreasing fuel efficiency and spewing soot laden exhaust. The only purpose to do this is to piss off liberals, apparently.
You’re joking? Oh my,… you’re not.
The best part (/s) is when they purposefully drive in front of people with a ‘wimpy’ car, like a hybrid or EV or a car that isn’t fuckhuge, and intentionally spews smog behind them.
Very mature folk, very stable, very safe to be around, as I’m sure you can tell.
Where I live, you get up to two years in jail for brake-checking someone, and a potentially life-altering fine if you cut off a pedestrian. Cops are extremely strict about cars endangering others because they’re very easy charges. I’d love to see their reaction to rolling coal.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone brake-checking in my country. It’s almost always videos from the US.
Probably because drivers’ education in the USA is a fucking joke and licenses are handed out like candy. New drivers inherit the flaws and bad manners from their parents because they’re not required to be trained by a certified instructor.
No, it’s because enforcement is a joke, not licensing.
One of the things that’s hard for a European to understand is how shoddy and capricious law enforcement in North America can be. You know those lovely conditional speed limits that Germany has? No way that works in North America because the police won’t do anything except sit in their interceptors on the last two days of they month doing speed traps.
Swerve, fail to signal, brake-check, basically drive like you’re Bumblebee in Michael Bay’s Transformers 2, that’s fine. Just stay below the speed limit on the last two days of the month.
Where is the 2nd ammendment if you need it?
Or bikes
It’s the best possible way to spot who was the bottom 10% of the high school class.
That’s how i feel when i see a MAGA or FuckTrudeu sticker on a vehicle
The F650 is a commercial vehicle. You can’t buy one from Ford without a commercial account with them. You need a CDL to drive it. They’re uncommon to see, and when you do, they’re invariably used to do actual work.
No, they’re not used just to drive to McDonald’s.
You don’t need a CDL to drive these. Doug Demuro has even reviewed one.
Slight correction on my part. It’s very easy to set one up to put it technically over the GVWR limit where you need a CDL. Ford makes it so it can be setup just below the limit.
Thank you! I’m tired of people complaining “hur dur’ big truck bad”, without any other logical input.
I do get it. The market around the F150 (and similar trucks at other manufactures) is ridiculous. There’s luxury trim levels in there that offer two tone leather, which does not seem like the sort of thing anyone who works with their truck would want.
It’s just that once you jump up to the F250 or above, you’re mostly dealing with people who actually use their truck for truck things.
The year is 2068. Everyone takes the bus to work. Their own personal bus.
You know this is by no means a common vehicle right? I’ve never seen one outside of a few pictures only found on anti-car posts. F350s are even rare to see on the roads, F150s are more common than grass and F250s are a daily sight unfortunately.
You actually probably see a lot of F250s and F350s, but they are used as commercial vehicles, often with stuff bolted to the bed (or in the case of the F350, sold without a bed and have aftermarket attachments).
Many tow trucks are F350s/F450s (and bigger for towing bigger vehicles), ambulances are often F550s, bucket trucks are F650s/F750s, etc.
F150s are for the weekender dads that occasionally need to haul something around. F250s and 350s are for people that actually work (usually) this monstrosity is bullshit, anyone that genuinely needs that much truck buys an actual semi or something.
The Econoline (and maybe the Transit) seems to be the vehicle of choice for people who actually work.
Vans don’t work for a lot of people that need a pick up bed.
Badass
I’ve literally only seen F650’s in the wild that had big box trailers on them being used as commercial hauling vehicles. This picture of one is the only time I’ve ever seen one seemingly for personal use.
Can you name the truck with four wheel drive, smells like steak and seats thirty five?
Canyonero!
12 yards long, two lanes wide, 65 tones of American Pride!
Canyonero!!!
Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!
The Ford F650 is part of a platform that, as you can see, is heavy-duty enough that you can put a proper dump bed on the back. It can be built many different ways, and the way that Ford will sell the vast majority of these trucks is that it will sell a cab and empty frame to another company, who will then build something else around it, some sort of heavy-duty thing that will see quite a lot of professional use, probably off-road more often than not. The massive ground clearance will look a lot more appropriate when this truck ends up where it belongs.
These things end up with buckets on the back, and used for powerline maintenance, or the entire back end becomes a steel locker for a bunch of welding and fabrication equipment. Once it is specced out properly, the size of it will make sense.
This model of truck is large and serious enough to also come with a proper, grown up diesel engine comparable to other heavy equipment engines in both weight and general durability. That it is the true purpose of the Ford F650, it is big and heavy enough to accept a respectable diesel engine for a proper dump truck, not the little baby diesels in the F150s, but one that is probably not available in anything smaller, a diesel that will actually last for 1 million km if maintained. It won’t even be a Ford engine, it will probably be a Cummins or another brand common in American heavy equipment, not passenger cars.
I am not trying to flex when I say this thing isn’t a toy. The transmission for it probably isn’t available in any other Ford pickup. They’re too small. Most of them will not spend a lot of time in the commuter lane, they’ll be on job sites all day. Even Americans don’t really drive the truck in the picture. The thing is in a class by itself.
Ford may as well sell a civilian version in case any Texas oil boys want the biggest truck on the block, but that just means adding a pickup truck bed to it, which goes with the rest of the cab in front. It certainly looks ridiculous. But somebody will want it to pull a really long horse trailer, so the bed back there is just a place to install a fifth wheel, the attachment point for a goose neck trailer. The owner will probably be somebody with a successful contracting business, somebody who can justify this thing as a proper business expense, since their other vehicle will say Caterpillar on it somewhere and has to also be towed on a trailer from job site to job site.
That is what the Ford F650 is for, and can do, it tows other heavy equipment around on public roads. It looks a lot less ridiculous with a skid loader and heavy trailer behind it. Park it next to a piece of proper construction equipment and it looks like a baby toy. It is small by heavy equipment standards, so that makes it maneuverable on construction sites.
The size of the current F150, the truck meant for average office workers to buy, that is the problem. It is unreasonable and no longer even fit for its original utility purpose. The modern F150 is too big, too expensive, and too cushy to be a farm truck, or a work truck on a job site. It is extremely common, overtall, and perfect for killing pedestrians.
The size of this thing, the F650, is not actually an issue. It is huge for defensible reasons, and it just looks crazy when you try to spec it out for civilian pickup use, because that’s fuckng crazy. It looks striking in the marketing material, for sure. We’re discussing the beast right now. Victory achieved for the marketing guy who insisted on offering this spec. Now even the Germans are aware of the truck.
But, oops, I can only assume that this entire “fuck cars” community is just the online version of those Just Stop Oil pricks, it’s all the idea of some PR firm who want to make public transport advocacy look like a position for shitty assholes with no respect for the needs of others. So I assume you don’t care about a proper explanation. I didn’t realize I was here when I started typing. Too late now.
I wish Reddit would stay on Reddit, instead of growing into completely different websites like some sort of mold. But anyway, the F650 is not actually a problem.
What is absurd is that the high-numbered Fords used to be these enormous work-horse vehicles that weren’t much used for personal vehicles.
You can see an example here of a 1990 Ford F-450 outfitted as a Dump Truck Flatbed
But, compare that to the “entry level” Ford F-150 of today and you see how ridiculous trucks are now.
Sure, this one is a novelty piece, but the ones on dealer lots that people are actually buying today are bigger than the commercial dump trucks of just 30 years ago.
Most people in these comments act like we just have car lots full of trucks just like this ready to be sold to the regular consumer. Just a couple searches on the internet or simply reading other comments in this thread will tell you that we don’t. To get something like this you’re paying well over $100,000 and you would have to specifically ask to have this set up. That’s if they even do it at a factory. This could very well be aftermarket. Trucks this size are meant for commercial use and are purchased with just the cab and open frame. After the purchase they would be delivered to whatever facility needed to outfit it for its specific purpose whether it’s a tow truck, electric service, waste management. Etc. Just because 1 douchebag decided to kit one these out as an oversized pickup and some YouTuber decides to market like “biggest and baddest” is a good thing doesn’t mean that everyone here is doing it. Like calm down. Most of us don’t like it either.
Look at it this way. Technically this isn’t the biggest and baddest for any everyday citizen of any nation. You could have a semi with a sleeper cab. Something like that would be massive for the everyday person, and for everyday use it wouldn’t be bad, it would be horrendous!
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Instead of driving something that is almost always too big and burns fuel and money, why not get a small trailer (or just rent one)?
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Maybe it is better that our fuel prices are higher here, because then people actually have an incentive to buy something efficient instead of wasting resources.
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The US used to have good public transit until it was torn down by the car lobby, and cities were only allowed to almost exclusively consist of single family homes with large yards front and back and no stores closeby, its no wonder people need cars. (Street maintenance also burns so much money that it cripples local governments)
Just imagine how nice it would be if the US had as many high speed train lines as they do highways. It would be quicker than driving your car.
While I dont want to ban cars completely, it would be nice if cars werent the only option and car owners would pay the costs that the cars create.
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The F650 is pretty much the last thing you buy before you need a proper semi/tractor truck. I have seen a few, and known someone with one; and they routinely use it for cash hauls to make a living. Paying LTL (less than truck load) rates are very expensive and slow compared to hiring a contractor to haul something you need in a timely manner. The guy I knew that owned one used it to make a living hauling farm and construction equipment long distances.
Most F650’s that are produced will not have a bed, because they either get fitted with a flatbed or a cargo box.
My 6’5" friend drives a normal human sized car just fine.
These are novelty vehicles for the ultra wealthy. “Normal” pickups are already comically large and ripe for mockery, no need to hyperbolize
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