Every time someone posts a complaint question like this it turns out that the things they’re posting and getting banned, blocked it deleted for is something that should be banned, blocked it deleted.
Lol little homie won’t give examples of what he posts. Wonder why…
Can you not imagine a scenario where there are innocuous comments getting deleted? Do you really have that much faith in AI that you trust it would always make the correct decision in removing comments? Do I have to try to find other instances online of people being unable to post completely harmless comments that get deleted for seemingly no reason?
I explained the reason why I’m not specifying the exact content, though I actually did give examples which people ignored and demanded to know more. Evidently, it would further distract from the actual question and stop people from answering it, and also it’s varied what gets deleted and doesn’t even follow a consistent formula.
This is really disheartening, tbh.
You don’t get to define what others find innocuous, bud.
So you’re incapable of imagining a hypothetical where even you agree that what I’m trying to say is completely innocuous?
Or do you actually think that there’s no situation when an innocuous comment gets deleted (even though there are countless examples online of people in the same situation as me)?
Honestly worrying if people have this much faith in auto-moderation systems.
Tell us your innocuous comment and we’ll tell you if we agree. Otherwise don’t reply.
It’s not one comment like I said. It’s at least 50% of the comments I make, completely harmless.
Sometimes I might say things like “This is really messed up” and it gets deleted. Or often it’s not even that, like just random sentences. I literally can’t think of examples because it happens so often. As many other people can attest to, their account often seems to be unable to comment completely innocuous things while other accounts are able to. If you have supreme faith in AI and YouTube auto-moderation, then you might say “Whatever is happening, you deserve it.” Which seems to be the prevailing view here, sadly.
But I just ask you to think a bit more compassionately and not assume the worst of people. There are many cases of similar situations that prove that there are completely innocent people having their comments removed for no reason. I’m thinking I might have to find one and post it here so people believe me.
See what I mean? I provide examples and no one cares. Just more downvotes. Just really toxic behaviour here. You are probably the ones who deserve to have your comments deleted more than me.
Sounds like your account’s just being shadow bannned
First, it’s the responsibility of channel owners to delete comments. They can use an automod from Youtube itself, which is quite bad and often doesn’t delete comments that should be deleted.
So many channel owners use open source tools that are more capable and/or do manual moderation. And they do use banlists that automatically delete all comments by users on the banlist. Considering that you admitted that 50% of your comments are problematic and worth being deleted, you probably already are on many of these banlists.
Second, you didn’t provide examples (plural), but only one example: “That’s really messed up”. You didn’t provide any context. And depending on the context, this comment could be totally not ok. E.g.: “Poor people have a right to live” - “That’s totally messed up”.
And third: By your own admission, 50% of your comments are bad and deserve to be banned. Looking at your comment history, that’s a very favourable estimate. That is toxic behaviour and you don’t get any pitty points for being sad that you get blocked.
If you don’t want to be blocked, try to keep your toxic shitposting closer to 0% and not at 50%.
Also, people are being incredibly rude for no reason. “Little homie”? And why are you assuming my gender? Weird internet stuff.
Lol!
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You know you don’t have to use these big tech platforms right?
Stop bowing down to their madness and just be OK with not having YouTube. It’s not like water you know. You don’t need them to survive.
The only problem - everyone uses it. And it’s a good source of info for all sorts of things (disassembly tutorials, DIY, etc.).
Exactly, everyone uses it. Otherwise I would 100% be using Oddysee or something like that. The problem is all the main content is on YouTube so I want to be able to comment on YouTube.
I don’t comment on YT to be honest… or very rarely… it has to be something that if found REALLY REALLY interesting or informative to comment.
Upvoted for acknowledging the madness of YouTube. It’s a broken platform and this crazy comment deletion that doesn’t even work properly and deletes completely normal comments is the worst thing they’ve done ever since its inception, tbh.
Have you heard of the fact that it’s not Youtube who is deleting comments but that it’s the responsibility of the channel owners?
I already addressed this here in another comment right after I posted because I know people always claim this lol (based on what I saw of Reddit threads discussing this issue). No it’s not the creators, it’s 100% YouTube bots. There’s a slight possibility it could be people working for YouTube in certain cases on popular channels but mostly it’s definitely bots. I often know the creators personally and they’ve confirmed they’re not deleting them and they don’t know why it happens.
Google likes to tell lies like they don’t delete comments, but they do all the time.
You would think users wouldn’t take their word at face value anymore but they still do!
Then you are probably shadowbanned on Youtube directly. Can happen if you post too much shit too frequently.
Even if they’re not yet shadowbanned, they certainly will when they start using homoglyph attacks.
Whether it’s justified or not, I can’t say because I’ve seen none of these comments, but it will absolutely confirm OP as a red flag in their system when they try to bypass it.
Hey, this is not me passing judgement, but trying to be informative since you are getting a lot of hate and seem confused by it:
Your question and commenting style are 100% match for “concern troll”, and there are no signs proving otherwise, like concrete examples of your issue or honest answers to followup questions.
Requests for examples are dismissed. You have commented at least 6 times that “I have given numerous examples” but all I can find is one comment where you say you wrote something like “that’s kinda messed up” which is both vague and contains zero context on what that comment responded to. No more examples.
I don’t know what concern troll is. But I’ve been accused of being a troll before which sucks. I’m not a troll.
I’ve given other examples already like how I can’t mention brand names in any context and can’t say anything about certain governments, corporations or industries regardless of the content. Like literally anything about them, including positive or neutral.
I also struggle to think of examples because it happens so often and I’m not recording them and they’re just random things I wouldn’t remember.
Beyond that I shouldn’t have to say what gets deleted and I actually can’t think of examples because I’ve already forgotten about them. It’s usually completely random things.
Also, the question is about alternate text characters. Some people were kind enough to understand this does happen to some people for no discernable reason, and either were empathetic but couldn’t help, while others actually gave some nice tips. Most people took this post as an opportunity to grill me about what the content was and assume the worst about me in a number of ways and insult me.
It’s really whatever. This is a known problem if you look into it online and there’s even someone else in this comments section who said they experienced the same issues.
Maybe it will become more well known and people will understand that these systems do not always work properly and often delete some people’s comments in some cases for no apparent reason, with mixed results. Assuming that they always work properly is just an illogical stance in my opinion. Technology is fallible, and especially AI and auto-moderation.
This honestly reminds me of something. Before butt-dialing became well known, when it happened sometimes people would literally refuse to believe that the phone had dialled accidentally in their pocket. They thought that such an issue could never occur. Well, it did. And this is a real problem I’m talking about, and I am honestly innocent. I could easily be the same person as you, and if you were in this situation, I would be empathetic to it and I wouldn’t demand to know what you were commenting (especially when it’s literally lots of random things in various scenarios). If someone told me that they were having a technical issue like this, I would believe them. We need to believe each other more, I think. All this accusation of falsehood. I understand trolls exist, but we’ve all lost our minds if we assume everyone is a troll all the time. Tbh.
A concern troll would not use this opportunity to clarify, but instead respond to my comment evasively, deflect, play victim, and with a barrage of politely worded smokescreen.
Are you saying that’s what I’m doing? I honestly can’t tell. If you think that no matter what I say, I’m assumed to be a troll anyway, then I guess I can’t win. I did my best to clarify. My situation makes sense to me. I mean, I don’t understand what’s happening to me with the YouTube comments and why, or what the criteria is. But if I saw someone saying what I’m saying I think I would believe them. Saying you don’t know whether you believe me or not is one thing, and that kind of hurts. It’s more hurtful that people are 100% not believing me and assuming the worst of me. Do you actually think I’m a troll? Even now? Man this is crazy.
I don’t think the commenter is implying anything. They deliberately worded it very factually. You either fullfill that category or you don’t. They took care not to include that judgement.
A few words of my own: Mind that YouTube does this deliberately. They don’t want you to know the exact rules. If you don’t know the exact limit, you won’t be able to ‘circumvent’ it and rephrase your comment to stay slightly below. That is by design. That’s also why there probably isn’t an answer to your question in the first place.
Google anticipated what you’re trying to do and this is their answer. We can take informed guesses. But they’re frequently changing things around and adapting anyways, so there’s only so much you can do. And they’re known to do it with other of their products, too. Nobody knows how the Google search, or YouTube algorithm works, so they stay in control when it comes to search engine optimization and what get’s recommended on YT.
It’s an old technique. With blurry borders, you gain the upper hand. People have to pull themselves together not to overstep (which is in your interest) and you can’t really be held accountable either, which is another plus. It’s a dick-move. Und unfair. But it works.
Well look at that. It turns are there ARE stupid questions after all!
Wanting to bypass a broken YouTube detection filter with variant characters is a stupid question?
Yes. For a number of reasons that have been explained to you repeatedly in this thread.
Go away now.
No one is understanding a very basic point, seemingly.
You don’t need to know the content that’s being removed, which is varied, in order to be able to suggest a text character that doesn’t get removed.
People in this thread, mainly one person in particular, is trying to argue that they would need to know what the content is in order to suggest a text character. That literally makes no sense.
If you know a text character that might work, then that would be helpful, and you don’t need to know what the content is in order to provide that.
Please tell me you understand this.
It’s not that they need to know that to provide a potential answer, it’s that they want to know that before they decide to help you bypass a filter.
A user here repeatedly tried to argue that they physically could not provide an answer without knowing the content. I think they realised their logic didn’t make sense after I explained it clearly, because they stopped replying.
I’m still here. I just realized that you’re never going to tell us what you said. Have a good day (or night). Perhaps for the future consider if being hostile and evasive is the best disposition when asking for help. I know this will likely trigger an argumentative reply, but consider that the harder tone you take, the more of an issue your behavior becomes and the opening issue becomes less the topic of discussion.
Look I appreciate if you were trying to help. But what you were saying honestly didn’t make sense.
I really don’t think I was being hostile. I tried to explain my position clearly, that for multiple reasons I’m unable to state exact comments that have been removed, though I gave you general examples. You seemed to ignore this multiple times and at that point I didn’t know how else to explain it.
And you tried to argue that you weren’t able to provide a character format without knowing the exact content, inaccurately comparing it to someone not telling you what problem they were having with their car, even though I have explained the problem and there’s nothing preventing anyone from helping with it in this case.
All it requires is the knowledge and willingness to suggest a text character that doesn’t get removed.
This is really hard to understand for me, if someone else asked for help with this, I would just help if I could. I wouldn’t try to determine what the person is commenting.
So are you still saying you can’t physically help with what I’m asking? Or do you just not want to help unless I tell you the content, because you can’t trust that what I’m commenting is completely innocuous and getting deleted for no reason? Do we not trust each other at our word anymore in this society?
This place reeks of a lack of empathy, seriously. I explained my situation and it does make sense. But people (not you specifically) are being really rude.
I don’t think there’s a lack of empathy, especially when you consider that we may be concerned for the more numerous viewers who could potentially see your comments if we help you bypass the filters that you seem to be running into more than just occasionally.
Trust me, you are rare as a more reasonable person on this platform by the fact that what you’re saying actually makes sense and is somewhat kind natured. So I appreciate that at least.
I provided examples already, and I also said that I’m not trying to say anything bad in any way. But people don’t believe me, and demand to know more, and won’t accept the answers I give. They assume the worst of me and make a lot of false accusations.
On top of that, people are rude and insult me for no reason.
Everything I say gets downvoted no matter how reasonable it is.
Yes, this is unempathetic. I know empathetic people. This is not that.
Also, everyone knows people on Reddit (and the culture here is basically the same as Reddit) are really rude and unempathetic to anyone asking for help. So this isn’t limited to this thread at all.
I understand alright.
I also understand nobody wants to read your comments. On YouTube. It’s like a toilet shooting your shit back in your face because it’s too filthy.
So no, I don’t NEED to know what the content of the messages is. But I WANT to know, because until this post I honestly could not imagine ANYTHING being too crappy for YouTube to leave up.
And no, I’m not going to help you no matter what. Your comments have more red flags than the Korean workers party annual conference.
Your comment assumes that something would have to be crappy for YouTube delete it. You leave no room for the possibility that the comment deletion system is broken and can often delete completely harmless comments for no reason, I guess for some people more than others for no discernable reason. I’m considering the possibility of it being location-based as well. Maybe I should use a VPN, or not use a VPN. Or I don’t know. But you are just so confident and sure of things and making a lot of assumptions which are false.
Don’t let this comment go un-downvoted! Don’t think, just downvote quiiick!
Don’t let this comment go un-downvoted! Don’t think, just downvote quiiick!
Can’t downvote or be downvoted. Blahaj account.
But you are just so confident
I’m confident that you are evasive when pressed. What other evidence do I need?
How is trying to explain that it happens on random comments and doing my best to produce examples of “average” “random” comments being evasive? “This channel has helped me feel sane lately.” “Frogs are crazy how they move”. If you don’t believe me, whatever. It’s literally just random stuff. If I change some words, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. I don’t know why that would be but it only happens on certain, random comments. Sometimes it’s if I mention a brand or company or institution of some kind, without any criticism or anything, a mainstream company, other times just completely random stuff that’s not even referencing anything in particular. Shadow deletion I guess, but I have no idea why.
You don’t need to post comments on youtube. You’re asking for people to do you a favor. They’re asking for more information before they do the favor. If you don’t want to fulfill the requirements, fine, but quit trying to act self-righteous because you’re willing to spend far more time trying to claim you don’t need to answer the question than it would take to answer the question, and going to that much effort to obfuscate rather than elucidate, suggests that whatever it is you are hiding would be seen as bad.
I literally answered to the best of my ability. I’m so sick of repeating myself by now to so many different people. Please read my other comments for more information. If I say completely basic, normal, random things like “Toshiba TVs suck” or “I love it when people dance like their legs are crazy straws” or whatever random stuff it gets deleted. Completely random things with no apparent logic to it. See other comments for more info. I don’t know how else I can explain it. It just happens on random comments.
No one is understanding a very basic point, seemingly.
Maybe that point isn’t being well explained.
Or maybe people disagree with your basic premise.
I have three questions.
1: Why would you want to post comments there?
2: If your comments are being deleted, why would you want to post comments there?
3: Seriously, why would you want to post comments there?
I think you believe that this is a big problem that a large portion of the population here experience, but it’s really not. I have no idea what you’re talking about. Going by some of the replies, lots of other folks don’t either.
We cannot help you if we don’t know what you’re talking about, and we won’t better understand what you’re talking about unless you give us more information. That’s it, really.
You can help, if you’re able to. Not wanting to help with this is something different.
I explained that my comments are being deleted. No one needs to know what every single comment I posted is, in order to suggest a text character that works. I already gave some examples, but people are demanding more. No matter what I say, they refuse to help.
Btw it does happen to a lot of people, and I’ve seen lots of people complaining of it in comments sections as well as on Reddit.
As @princessleiascat said, I think you’re assuming that most people can relate to this, but the truth is that they can’t. I’ve never had a comment deleted from YouTube - ever.
As a creator, I’ve deleted the occasional comment someone else has made on my content, though.
This is why most people are defaulting to the position that maybe it’s more about what you are writing, rather than a broken system.
Do you need to have been in a situation yourself in order to empathise with it?
Furthermore, must you understand something completely in order to provide help?
Look this is a free platform and I appreciate people even commented on this post. But these comments assuming the worst of me and not believing me that my comments are harmless and refusing to even want to help are hurtful. It makes me feel like, what if someone was being attacked by AI in a really crazy way. Not that this is that. But, have mercy on that person. Because if people choose to trust in technology more than human beings, I think we’re honestly doomed.
I have no idea what you posted so I cannot help.
And it makes no difference to me if everyone is talking about it or not - I still have no idea what you’re talking about.
I don’t know why you’re saying that you need to know what things I’ve commented in order to help me find an alternate character text that doesnt get deleted. It’s literally random innocuous things. Like for example I could say “Maybe one day electric cars will be much faster than gas powered cars” and it gets deleted.
Have you ever been in a situation where no one believes you even though you know you’re innocent? That’s what this is for me.
These lots of people are a very specific bubble: the idiots who can’t behave on the internet. All the others don’t have that issue.
It’s also not autoblocking by Youtube, but you being banned by channel admins. They use bots to automatically delete any content an user posted who already posted multiple dumb/offensive/toxic posts.
Changing the letters to some similar looking letters won’t help you, because YOU are banned.
If by your own admission 50% of your posts are questionable at best, you deserve bans.
I did not say 50% of my comments are questionable. I said about that many get removed for no reason despite being harmless. It’s you who is making negative assumptions about a human being and choosing to put all your faith in technology and AI to work correctly when it clearly doesn’t. And no, again, it’s not channels. Channel owners have confirmed to me they’re not deleting my comments and they don’t know why they get removed.
It’s okay to simply watch a video and not comment on it
It’s okay to be not be able to talk and have your lips stitched up at all times… just kidding. But that’s what it feels like. If I have something I want to say, I should be able to say it (presuming it’s not problematic in any way, which it’s not). People here are honestly really hard to understand, assuming that I must be saying something bad when I’m literally not. All the assumptions people make. Imagine if you were in that situation, you see a video, you want to say something innocuous, bam, deleted. Try again, say something different, bam. Censored for no reason. It’s dystopian, and it makes it worse that other people can say things but some people can’t. I can say certain random things but not others, with no rhyme or reason to it.
Maybe it’s the creators that delete your comments as well. Doesn’t have to be only YT.
As I addressed in other comments, it’s not creators. It’s YouTube. Creators have confirmed to me they’re not deleting comments. And by YouTube, I mean some kind of automated system because it’s insta-removal for various random things I say. Like literally harmless things. What you just said could be deleted if you were me, for example. I don’t know why. People won’t believe me and that sucks. I wish someone would believe me. Well, a few people did.
I’ve noticed Youtube nuking my comments if they contain words related to money, if they contain too many brands, if they contain technical term, etc.
Comments that don’t have much in terms of meaning or information go through just fine.
So… Just, write like you’re 5 years old and split long messages into several comments.
THANK YOU! Someone who has experienced the same thing. That’s exactly what I mean. I can’t even mention companies like Amazon in any context, even when it’s not negative at all.
And yes, separating my comments and rewording them for absolutely no reason when they still say the same thing, can sometimes work, and other times doesn’t. It’s really annoying.
And of course you get downvoted even when you provide reasonable examples. I already gave them examples but they demanded to know more and continue to make various assumptions about me.
People here are so closed-minded honestly, that they can’t possibly believe that there are major flaws with YouTube’s comment deletion algorithm, and they can impact some people more than others for no reason. Do they have so much faith in these companies and automated systems that they can’t possibly fathom they might not work properly or fairly 100% of the time? Or can people not even accept that other people’s experiences with the same things might be different than theirs? It reminds me of people who refuse to believe other intelligent life could exist somewhere in the universe. They can’t even accept it as a hypothetical.
And now go on, downvote me. It’s so mindless.
Sorry for the rant. These people frustrate me.
Human’s for you, what can I say.
We all are guilty of similar behavior. You, I, your neighbor- Everyone.
It’s often hard to believe something, when your own experience is vastly different from what someone describes.
So what did you post that might’ve been a red flag?
I think you’re running into a bunch of detection that has very little to do with technology.
It’s absolutely technology. It’s not the creators, they’ve confirmed to me that they’re not doing it. It’s an instant deletion thing, and it’s just random comments that mention different products or things, or often not even that, just basic sentences. I never know when it’s going to do it or not. For example any of the comments in this thread could easily be deleted for me. It’s completely nonsensical, a broken system. How do you have so much faith in technology? Also, maybe it has other influence like YouTube or governments or vested interests, who knows. I’m not going to go conspiracy mode because I don’t think like that. There could be some kind of criteria to it that I don’t understand, but it’s acting through auto-moderation bots on YouTube. I don’t know why. I don’t have the answers, that’s why I’m asking for help.
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I would permaban that on sight no matter what it said.
Thank you.
