Gaza is only an “open air prison” because it’s controlled by a jihadist organization fixated on a religious genocidal fantasy and willing to commit funds, resources and civilians’ lives towards it. Its’ crucial to remember that Gaza borders Egypt as well. The Israeli and Egyptian blockade of Gaza is a legal, defensive measure taken as a result of Hamas’ intentions, threats and violence, not the other way around. Israel left Gaza in 2005 withdrawing all civilians and military, and is met with hostility and violence from the territory ever since. Leaving Gaza unchecked while Hamas operates it as a terror-state would only bring about exacerbated violence and death.
Now tell me how many of those people are dependent on international aid to survive, and how many are malnourished. And while you’re at it how many of them need medicine that they can’t get because of the blockade and have to use the tunnels, if they can get it at all.
Edit: And oh I forgot: How many of them lost family members or their homes to Israeli airstrikes.
What did Hamas do to help these people with all the humanitarian Qatari money it received? What does Hamas do now with the fuel and humanitarian aid it receives ?
It built tunnels, rockets to massacre and kill in it’s one goal, to completely drive the last of the Jews from the land. It lives underground while people above ground live in hell.
It’s sad what happened and continues to happen to the people of Gaza. I wish they will overthrow the terrible organization that rules them and start using the aid money for good
What are they supposed to do? Gaza is only allowed to buy things Israel allows them to buy, only allowed to sell things Israel allows them to sell (or does it just not allow them to export their products? I’m not sure). No government can function under these conditions. Hence the international aid, that surprise surprise Israel also limits. We can blame Hamas’s domestic policy all we want, but under these conditions they never had a chance. Gaza just doesn’t have the resources to survive without contact with the outside world.
I spent a year living in Israel during the Second Intifada, studying the conflict and talking to everyone I could, Jew, Arab, etc. I do a pretty good impression of a constipated Ariel Sharon giving a speech, “Anaaacchnu tzrichim [labored grunting] bitachon b’Israel v’hakol olam!”
You have a well-informed and factual view of the situation. Must be because you are an Israeli ex-pat and (let me guess) are secular. It’s disheartening to see propaganda-fueled idiots who have zero idea what they are talking about arguing with you–who wants reform in Israel–all because they have a black-and-white view of right and wrong, see Islam as “the underdog” that is therefore allowed to commit atrocities, and had hiphop artists telling them to “free Palestine” since 1995.
They should’ve just asked the guards nicely and maybe they would’ve opened up the gates of Auschwitz but these darned resistances just didn’t want to stop.
Again, Gaza is no prison. It has a border with Israel and also with Egypt. Before the Oct 7th massacre Gazans were crossing to Israel for work every day.
They’d probably need to give them equal rights and not be an apartheid state, too, and stop kicking people out of their homes. But once all that happened, the violence would probably be greatly reduced. The same thing happened with the Ira in the UK, their attacks stopped once they negotiated.
Surrender and what? Go back to living in an open-air concentration camp, only this time with the addition of ethnic cleansing?
Gaza is only an “open air prison” because it’s controlled by a jihadist organization fixated on a religious genocidal fantasy and willing to commit funds, resources and civilians’ lives towards it. Its’ crucial to remember that Gaza borders Egypt as well. The Israeli and Egyptian blockade of Gaza is a legal, defensive measure taken as a result of Hamas’ intentions, threats and violence, not the other way around. Israel left Gaza in 2005 withdrawing all civilians and military, and is met with hostility and violence from the territory ever since. Leaving Gaza unchecked while Hamas operates it as a terror-state would only bring about exacerbated violence and death.
Life in the prison looks tough https://nitter.net/imshin/status/1733819052659740965?s=20
Now tell me how many of those people are dependent on international aid to survive, and how many are malnourished. And while you’re at it how many of them need medicine that they can’t get because of the blockade and have to use the tunnels, if they can get it at all.
Edit: And oh I forgot: How many of them lost family members or their homes to Israeli airstrikes.
Bet you’re gonna just ignore all that and still call it an open air concentration camp 🤦
What did Hamas do to help these people with all the humanitarian Qatari money it received? What does Hamas do now with the fuel and humanitarian aid it receives ?
It built tunnels, rockets to massacre and kill in it’s one goal, to completely drive the last of the Jews from the land. It lives underground while people above ground live in hell.
It’s sad what happened and continues to happen to the people of Gaza. I wish they will overthrow the terrible organization that rules them and start using the aid money for good
What are they supposed to do? Gaza is only allowed to buy things Israel allows them to buy, only allowed to sell things Israel allows them to sell (or does it just not allow them to export their products? I’m not sure). No government can function under these conditions. Hence the international aid, that surprise surprise Israel also limits. We can blame Hamas’s domestic policy all we want, but under these conditions they never had a chance. Gaza just doesn’t have the resources to survive without contact with the outside world.
I spent a year living in Israel during the Second Intifada, studying the conflict and talking to everyone I could, Jew, Arab, etc. I do a pretty good impression of a constipated Ariel Sharon giving a speech, “Anaaacchnu tzrichim [labored grunting] bitachon b’Israel v’hakol olam!”
You have a well-informed and factual view of the situation. Must be because you are an Israeli ex-pat and (let me guess) are secular. It’s disheartening to see propaganda-fueled idiots who have zero idea what they are talking about arguing with you–who wants reform in Israel–all because they have a black-and-white view of right and wrong, see Islam as “the underdog” that is therefore allowed to commit atrocities, and had hiphop artists telling them to “free Palestine” since 1995.
Give up the weapons, stop bombing and killing people and Israel might get rid of the fence. Worth a try…
They should’ve just asked the guards nicely and maybe they would’ve opened up the gates of Auschwitz but these darned resistances just didn’t want to stop.
Again, Gaza is no prison. It has a border with Israel and also with Egypt. Before the Oct 7th massacre Gazans were crossing to Israel for work every day.
Here’s how life in “Auschwitz” looked like https://nitter.net/imshin/status/1733819052659740965?s=20
You keep repeating Gaza is not a prison. I agree, it’s a concentration camp.
Okay. Seems like you’re under the delusion that if Israel had an open free border with Gaza, like in the EU, peace would break in the region
They’d probably need to give them equal rights and not be an apartheid state, too, and stop kicking people out of their homes. But once all that happened, the violence would probably be greatly reduced. The same thing happened with the Ira in the UK, their attacks stopped once they negotiated.
Would’ve worked for the West Bank.