https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/14knc6t/got_r4d_for_pirating_someone_elses_john_oliver_so/
Pirates want to stay on Reddit? This is the last group I had expected to have such a reaction, but here we are. Yes, the mod could have worded it better, but these people actually want to stick around on Reddit.
I personally find Lemmy to be a perfectly viable alternative to Reddit for such subs. I wonder about the reasons why these people still don’t want to move.
my theory is that most users don’t know or care about the api changes or the deaths of the third party apps. and most of the ones who do know dont care.
id also guess that a lot of people are hesitant to join the fediverse due to a choice paralysis, kinda similar to Linux distros. altho joining an instance is not actually all that complicated most people just dont want to have to bother making the choice of which one to join, and others cant be bothered to learn how instances work. ppl think it’s complicated because it’s different and new to them and ppl generally don’t like change 🤷♀️
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“Why fix what isn’t broken?” Most people don’t have the foresight, they live in the present and it’s like nothing has changed. When the realization hits, they might migrate to lemmy if reddit was important to them.
Personally, a video should help. A lot of people are visual learners. And the size of the community at reddit is small… that’s also a factor. If their friend are coming here, they’ll come here.
I have only just joined over here on Lemmy, so let me try to explain what took me so long. Reddit, even though a shit hole, is easier to use and has ingrained itself with google for even easier use. Lemmy is a nightmare to try and find boards ya interested in for common people, as each .com is it’s own sign up and own set of boards, it’s not you go to one site, sign up and find what ya want, you need to know each little lemmy.insertnamehere to find a certain ammount of boards.
This is just my experience and everyone could be different, basically put, laziness and simplicity i think are the two main reasons.
EDIT: not to mention that just took about 5mins to post… wtf is up with this site?
I do not think that is the case. You simply need to toggle the search for communities to “all” instead of “local”. That should search every federated instance, which becomes very similar to searching for communities on Reddit
It’s so hard to join lemmy now, and everything lags in lemmy even just an upvote…
Sorry to hear that, but I’m guessing that might be related to your specific instance. So far I’m really happy with mine, but some are evidently struggling to keep up with the influx of Rexxiters. (and bots, maybe?)
Anyway, nothing preventing you from hitting the Fediverse from a different instance, yeah?
I haven’t been able to upvote a post in a few days.
Every one just sits there for 60s then:
SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<html> <h"... is not valid JSON
This is definitely instance related. I have not experienced any issues what so ever since joining.
Come join the rest of us sh.itheads on sh.itjust.works!
same thing is happening to me. I might try making an account on another instance
I’ve not had any issues? Try another instance, Lemmy.world is very popular and works well.
I’m having lag on lemmy.world. Sometimes just spins for 5+ minutes just to upvote. Sometimes posts won’t create at all, just spins and spins.
Hm, perhaps clear cache? They recently upgraded and that can fix some issues.
Why wouldn’t they want to stay? It works for them. Before ideology, before morality, before any other thing you can conceive of is plain, simple convenience. And Reddit is certainly convenient. Once enough users leave, they’ll leave, too.
Ease of use and size of user base
Because Lemmy isn’t as conveniently accessed, and it’s just slow.
It’s also confusing.
Can you mention the specific points of confusion that have impeded your experience here?
For me, federation sounds simple in theory. In practice it’s not for end users. Forcing an instance to discover a new, unfedeated community is a pain in the ass, let alone finding that community in the first place. All these little services (e.g. listing all instances/communities) are scattered and you kind of just have to learn as you go.
The average user just wants a nice search - that searches through “all” of Lemmy - something that is obviously hard or even impossible (or even not desirable to all users)
I think the above commenter is misunderstanding that the user is also federated. All of these concepts are hard to grasp but will eventually sink in I hope.
I feel like they don’t understand the point of the john oliver posts. Someone said it only turns the community to shit. Yeah, that is LITERALLY the reason so that people migrate away and turn reddit into a mess after spez’s decision. Oh, how quickly people forgot about the protest, spez was right.
My favourite are the comments of people saying “return the sub back to normal, this shit is stupid and isn’t doing anything! I don’t even use Apollo so I don’t care” - posted from Boost for Reddit.
A lot of people don’t even understand. They genuinely think this only affects Apollo and that Christian is being a baby lol. Can’t wait to see their faces when their app stops working and they whine.
To be fair, anyone who actually cares is not on reddit anymore, so you’re seeing the worst of the worst takes.
A lot of people on r/piracy are pirates by convenience, not by ethics. The sub being shut down is not convenient for them. It’s really sad to see how many people have the attention span of a goldfish, and can’t think beyond “this isn’t convenient for me today.”
Pirates by ethics = root of socialism, anarchism?
Pirates by convenience = root of capitalism and imperialism?
For me, at least, there are companies worth pirating stuff from. I don’t pretend to be ethical in any way, although I do avoid pirating from indie devs. It’s been a long while since I pirated anything, tbh. I just like the community here and it’s nice to keep up with the news.
Exactly. I don’t pirate too much, I’m happy just playing my favorite video games (paid for because they are good) and talking in chat rooms, but if I wanted to play a Nintendo Game with friends I would 100% pirate it; it’s ethical in this case and I have really no other way to do it.
Especially their back catalog. Nintendo is sitting on tons of lost money for reasons I don’t really understand
If they sold the old games still piracy rates would probably go down and they would get more money, so it would be pretty much a win-win for Nintendo. Or am I missing something?
No, you’re right, and that’s absolutely what I’m saying. Presently, the only avenue if you want to relive the old Pokémon games is to steal them. That, if you ask me, is big dumb
There’s a sociological study that analyzes cultural change and acceptance of new ideas. It’s called the technology adoption lifecycle. I still think we are in the early stages. I would consider reddit refugees as the early adopters.
It will take time
Many subs there have 1000x the users that the equivalent subs here do. That does make a difference.
Maybe they have some little niche communities they do not want to just abandon.
That is why I still use reddit - when you have a really niche hobby or interest and finally discover a community of people that you can share the joy of that interest with, that feels great - you do not want to lose that community that you have longed for for so long.
I am part of some niche communities that have an activity level and a user base that is hard to beat on reddit. I am doing my part here on Lemmy and created local c/dolls and c/denpasong communities on my home instance, but of course nobody is interested here on Lemmy. I am giving Lemmy some time of course, but I am afraid that I will stay lonely with my little communities here on Lemmy unfortunately.
I just took a look at one of the most popular recent “mutiny posts” and wow, it really has gone to shit. I get that some people might not care about the API mess, but they actively hate the mods there. Half the comments are just unhinged and are still upvoted.
There was even an unabashed antivaxer comment from some guy drawing some sort of insane comparisons between mrna and r/Piracy mods and even that was upvoted lol
I don’t know if the numbers back this up but I hope that the reason for this is just that the reasonable people moved to Lemmy and it’s just the crazies left there…
I also don’t understand it. Didn’t they always have problems there with Reddit deleting pinned threads and their wiki full of information, to the point where information had to be collected on an external page?
Bootlickers the lot of them
Hey, they can stay on Reddit with their beloved memes, I don’t really care.